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For all those brave enough to declare that they have no belief in gods.
THIS IS THE ATHEIST SANCTUARY.
This is my home so if you wish to join please wipe your feet of god, satan, budda or any belief that devours your time and your self-devotion if you wish to join. Friendly discussion is welcomed but I will not tolerate hate in my house.


All people are welcomed for discussion but if you wish to join you must be free from all belief of any god. There are a few rules of mine...


1. THERE SHALL BE NO RELIGOUS DISCRIMINATION


2. MEMBERS MUST BE PURE ATHEISTS...NO UNDECIDED


3. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY ARGUEMENTS...DEAL WITH IT. THIS IS MY HOUSE AND MY OWN SANCTUARY.


4. THESE RULES DO NOT BEND!! IF YOU BREAK THEM I SHALL TALK TO THE GUARDS AND/OR KICK YOU OUT!! IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER I SHALL SHAME YOU ANYWAY I CAN.


Now for my intro. I am Conrad[Southern Affliction]. As you can tell I am southern. I've had a few people tell me they've never heard of an atheist Redneck. HERE I AM!! You can just call me the Creater of this sanctuary. I don't know what else to call myself. If you have any suggestions...message me.




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[Southern Affliction]


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[dragonslammer]


[dragonslammer]Andrew is my co-creator...he is the one who got me started on elftown. Show him respect. He's my bro.

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2004-10-07 [Southern Affliction]: WELCOME!!! This is my house! Everyone is welcomed for civilized chat but act like fuckheads and break the rules and I'll slit your fuckin throats!!!! Thank you.

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: just so everyone knows... I don't mind the people who do believe in god.. this is just my choice... and I've never believed in him anyways...

2004-10-19 [Angel Trueblood]: so you guys are atheist?? i am

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: lol.. kk

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: Atheism is a religion! For you who hate religions and trying to become agaisnt and decided to be Atheist!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: no.. it's for those who don't believe...

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: Please, reasearch Atheism and you will see. Atheism is a religion!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: whatever... All I know is that i have no beliefe in god. That's the religion. Our own religion. We chose to believe what we want to believe in.

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: Atheist people don't believe though!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: We believe in what we want to believe in. ibelieve in Science then God made created life and whatever else he did. Go away. if you don't like our choice, then leave.

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: I'm Atheist myself, dumbass! I don't think you are being Atheist for the right knowledge of actually knowing what it is!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: oye... listen. i DO NOT believe in god. Ok? THAT'S IT. I don't believe in any other god either. so, leave me alone.

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to everyone!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: well I'm the only one here right now!!

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: Then don't take me the wrong way then!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: then stop yelling at me! i get enough of that in real life!!!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: do you want to beat me too???

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: I wasn't yelling at you, and why in the hell would I want to beat you?

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: everyone else does..

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: I don't hit girls! I would never do that, I'm not a pussy little bitch!

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: oye.. that's not what i ment... there's no point talking to guys about this kind of stuff... they just don't understand...

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: I do, the possiblty of you not explaining well enough also comes into place.

2004-10-19 [Neon Tangerine]: maybe later... i got to go eat

2004-10-19 [Young J.C.]: Okay, buh bye.

2004-10-20 [Neon Tangerine]: oye..

2004-10-20 [Young J.C.]: What?

2004-10-20 [Neon Tangerine]: nothing...

2004-10-20 [Young J.C.]: Are you gonna tell me now?

2004-10-20 [Neon Tangerine]: I have nothing to say...

2004-10-20 [Young J.C.]: Why not?

2004-10-20 [Neon Tangerine]: cuz.. I'm in a depressed mood right now.. and my lap top is dying

2004-10-20 [Young J.C.]: Okay...

2004-10-21 [Neon Tangerine]: just know, i'm always depressed, and i say things (or type things) without knowing about it. and it sucks. that's how alot of people start to hate me... and I,m extremely stupid... so.. yeah.. 

2004-10-21 [Young J.C.]: I don't hate you.

2004-10-22 [Southern Affliction]: R u alright -Dreamer-

2004-10-22 [Southern Affliction]: R u causin trouble Jumsteady

2004-10-22 [Young J.C.]: Nope.

2004-10-24 [Neon Tangerine]: I'm ok... just wishing i had some what of a better life..

2004-10-24 [Young J.C.]: Wow... join the crowd... haha.

2004-10-24 [Neon Tangerine]: don't be sarcastic with me. I'm ready to use my knife... oye.. no point talking to anyone about it.. everyone else thinks that they have a bad life too, and that they're the ones who are supposed to be saying what I'm saying now. so.. i think I'm just going to leave et.. I thought maybe people here would understand...

2004-10-24 [Young J.C.]: I can help you.

2004-10-24 [Neon Tangerine]: uh-huh..

2004-10-25 [Southern Affliction]: -Dreamer-...Everyone thinks they have a bad life. Some are worse than others. Some just want attention. But if you need someone to talk to. I'm here.

2004-10-25 [Neon Tangerine]: lol... it's soooo true.. everyone does think they have a bad life (except for the people who get 10 million dollars a week... ) meh.. there's nothing to talk about.. I'm just... StRaNgE @____@ ?????

2004-10-25 [dragonslammer]: yeah me too!

2004-10-25 [dragonslammer]: hi are you

2004-10-25 [skanderbik]: how do you think religion endangers the lives and happiness of millions? defend that statement.

2004-10-25 [Neon Tangerine]: and where did that come from? i don't see it anywhere in the comment board.. or whatever..

2004-10-26 [HiddenFire]: it was in relation to the content of the wiki. I'm interested to know as well.

2004-10-26 [HiddenFire]: I'm not even going to touch the depression stuff... I'de just SERIOUSLY piss people off. Lets just say I've been through it, and it bugs me to see other people expressing it in such a way. Why tell anyone anyway? *shrugs* It's good to talk about it... but not just to say "I don't want to talk about it." *shrugs* @.@

2004-10-26 [Neon Tangerine]: Meh... I'd like to talk about it, but not to anyone one here (no offence)

2004-10-26 [HiddenFire]: Understandable. I'm the type that keeps it to myself. No one knows when I'm depressed... unless I tell them. I found reasons to live though, so I'm no danger to myself. *shrugs*

2004-10-26 [Neon Tangerine]: If I'm depressed, then i just.. go off on my own... but then pple fallow me, and ask me questions.. meh..

2004-10-28 [skanderbik]: i await an answer.

2004-10-28 [Neon Tangerine]: you'll wait a while

2004-11-01 [Tocxica]: Conrad...I just popped in to say I LUF you...yes luf.

2004-11-01 [Southern Affliction]: luv u to

2004-11-01 [Tocxica]: YAYSAL...lol but ya know...luf is a much stronger word lmao...anyway sex kitten I'm gonna go...I'm not suposse to be here seeing how I'm all...yea and stuff...talk at cha later bough

2004-11-02 [Southern Affliction]: The thing about the banner... The banner was mostly a joke but when you think about it... it's true. Religon has hurt many people. Sacrificial tributes, holy wars, hate crimes, discrimination, it is dangerous.

2004-11-02 [Southern Affliction]: -Dreamer-: Everyone will think at some point that their life is the worst...then they will try to say it's worse than what you're going through. All I have to say is that everyone has problems and if you need someone to talk to...I'm here.

2004-11-16 [skanderbik]: where'd my comment go? didn't post properly, i guess. so here it is again.

2004-11-16 [skanderbik]: and if hate crimes and conversion by force in todays world is what makes religion dangerous, then atheism is equally dangerous. after all, i have never heard of church kids bringing guns to school and shooting up atheists.

2004-11-16 [Southern Affliction]: Quit using culumbine as your one point. Them being atheist was a cause yes. Only because of how the christians treated them. If you annoyed and pissed me off... I would fucking shoot you too. Deal with it. They created violence so they had violence done upon them.

2004-11-16 [skanderbik]: since no response followed, i had to repeat myself to draw this last one out of you. now, you blame Chrisitians for holy wars. why do you think that started? the muslim forces were pressing at Europe's borders, so the crusade was launched to get the most possible troops out to fight them, as everyone would follow a religious cause at that time.

2004-11-16 [Southern Affliction]: I don't blame any one for the fucking holy wars. All I care about is how christians fucking try ridiculing and pressuring atheists. Now like I promised... *Shoots his fucking head off and sends it to the Pope*

2004-11-16 [skanderbik]: as well, i will not be forced to bring up one point over and over if you stop deleting my comments. where'd my first reply go? couldn't have magically disappeared. and about shooting me, you'd best not brag about what you probably couldn't do.

2004-11-16 [Southern Affliction]: If only you knew.

2004-11-16 [skanderbik]: you seemed like blaming religion a couple of comments ago. after all, according to you, that is why it endangers lives. what happened to welcoming dicussions? this is more like a trash fest that i will not be further drawn into. since you do not tolerate hate here, as your disclaimer up top seems to say, you'd better leave. thus far you're the only one swearing and throwing insults.

2004-11-17 [skanderbik]: speaking of 'my only point', where'd the first of my TWO responses go? i know it posted, i saw it there. if you've got nothing to counter an argument, you've got nothing. own up to it.

2004-11-17 [Southern Affliction]: I'll own to my foot up your ass. This is my house. I had a different discussion I was arguing and you changed it to holy wars and other shit. So for now on. All your comments will be erased. Deal with it. Go back to the holy war.

2004-11-19 [BerserkerGlaive]: my my, aren't we a tough one. your house is the kindergarten playground. yeah, he may have changed it. deal with it, as you so nicely put it. and shove the tough act up your ass, since everyone seems to want to say it in nice words. i'm not about to argue for or against either side, but poser like you make me wanna vomit.

2004-11-23 [Southern Affliction]: And exactly what the fuck are you? I don't know were you get calling me a fuckin poser from. This place is not for "The little groups of people walking around, trying to prove their worth to themselves and those around them by being 'different'" as you said in your profile. This is for atheist... ones who want to conversate with others like them. All are welcomed here but I don't appreciate you coming into my house and sanctuary and trying to dish out shit to someone you don't know.

2004-11-23 [BerserkerGlaive]: first off me calling you a poser has nothing to do with this page. it has to do with you and your make-believe toughness that you're sticking in everyone's faces. you're nothing more than yet another pansy trying to hide his weakness. and now that you mention it, this place is exactly waht you say it isn't. all you're trying to do is play rebel.

2004-11-23 [BerserkerGlaive]: oh, i'm sorry. poser is the incorrect word. perhaphs hypocrite is a more fitting term. in your description and here, all you do is dish out shit, and then piss about not appreciating it when others do it. and by the way, sharpen up on your grammar. conversate is not a word.

2004-11-26 [Rizzen]: I just found you'r page. While I respect the fact that you stand firmly on your views (A thing few others do anymore), I've found a few technical problems with the way you do it, mainly dealing with you'r little shpiel on top. first off :"Againt the Conformified World". The conformified world is atheist. or at least, the world you live in. Second "Wipe your feet of god, sata, budda or any other belief that devours your time and self-devotion". Self devotion is a hallmark of satanism more than it is atheism

2004-11-29 [Southern Affliction]: I have nothing to prove to ya. You can say what you want and I'll do the same.

2004-11-30 [Rizzen]: I never said that. If you wish me to leave I shall, but if you'r up for a civilized debate, I will willingly oblidge

2004-11-30 [Southern Affliction]: Thank you. I appreciate how civilized you are. Unlike others you are here to just slander those who are different.

2004-12-01 [Rizzen]: If I weren't civil, I'd jsut be perpetrating a greater hate and misunderstanding of my fellow Christians. Besides, this is you'r organisation. I'm just a guest here

2004-12-01 [Southern Affliction]: Thank you. And you are welcome here?

2004-12-02 [Rizzen]: that's what I'm trying to discern. Am I?

2004-12-02 [Southern Affliction]: Yes...anyone is welcome as long as they are civil and respect others beliefs.

2004-12-03 [Rizzen]: most excellent.Now, personally, I'm here to debate. I'm not sure where to begin, so why don't you

2004-12-03 [Southern Affliction]: I'm not really here to prove any religon wrong if thats what you're intrested in. But if thats what you want... then you begin.

2004-12-03 [Rizzen]: I never said you were. I'm mainly interested in why you don't believe in any religion

2004-12-06 [Southern Affliction]: I have never had a reason to believe. I have done fine without it. I want to lead my life my way... not the way of a church.

2004-12-07 [Rizzen]: ah, but many church's let you live you'r own life. Taking God's laws into effect is really just like obeying the government's laws, with the addtion of a few morals. As for the reason... I can't argue that. If one doesn't see a reason, one doesn't see a reason. Me, I'll pray you see a reason

2004-12-07 [Southern Affliction]: My life is fine without religon anyways. I've seen believers that are worst off than myself. But I have not seen any divine intervention...no miracles. Nothing to back up the belief of any god.

2004-12-07 [Rizzen]: ah. See, I have seen too many miracles, and horrors, to ignore. I have felt the presence of angels and daemons, and seen the effects of their presence. My uncle was once diagnosed with cancer which had progressed to the point where the doctors were saying he had mabey three more days. Three years later he's skydiving, completely cancer free. A couple of months ago my grandmother had a heart attack on a wednesday, on friday she walked to the hospital. The doctors then found out she had lost fully half her heart. She walked to the hopsital after lossing half her heart. God has watched my family, and protected us. You speak of believers wors off than you. They believe so

2004-12-07 [Rizzen]: hard because they have nothing. They litterally have nothing other than their faith. It is because of God they can continue on.

2004-12-07 [Southern Affliction]: It gives people something to believe. I respect that. It helps people through troubles. All I rely on is myself and what friends I got.

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: I can respect that. If one has no reason, then one has no reason so I won't press the matter

2004-12-08 [Southern Affliction]: Thank you. So now you understand why I don't believe right?

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: understand, no. But I will respect it. The seed has been planted, it is up to God and you to decide whether or not it will grow

2004-12-08 [Southern Affliction]: It is up to how I plan to feed it. It grows how I want it. Wether I plan to feed it or let it die is up to me.

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: possibly. But in my experiance, the person may have the majority of control, but God is still speaking

2004-12-08 [Southern Affliction]: Well I gladly admit... I am in control of my own life. I have never had an outside influence help me through the hard times. All I rely on is myself, alcohol, and pain.

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: God works in mysterious ways, good aquaintance. Most often we don't know he's doing anything at all

2004-12-08 [Southern Affliction]: It's a good excuse for when things aren't really there when people expect it to be.

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: you mean when people refuse to accept a "no" to their prayers? Everything God does is for the best. For instance, there was a time when I'd attack a wiki like this, but now I see it as an oportunity to share my faith

2004-12-08 [Southern Affliction]: Well I appreciate you just sharing becuase I find it hard for me not to attack people who try to debate against me. There were others who tried to make me feel like shit cause of my beliefs. FUCK THEM!!

2004-12-08 [Rizzen]: does that mean you'r going to attack me. I'm debating against you

2004-12-09 [Southern Affliction]: You are sharing an open conversation of opinions. They would stop at nothing to prove me wrong. Thats the difference.

2004-12-10 [Rizzen]: ah. But, doesn't the fact that I'm debating say I believe you'r wrong and I'm trying to prove it?

2004-12-10 [Southern Affliction]: but you don't sound like you'll beat me with a cross if you can't get me to believe

2004-12-10 [Rizzen]: no, I wouldn't do that. Christianity asks to love others, even our enemies. If I couldn't get you to change you'r mind, I'd leave the matter to God and pray for you.

2004-12-10 [Southern Affliction]: I appreciate that you have concern for people. But people shouldn't have to be told to love others. It's a humane thing, not a religous one.

2004-12-11 [Rizzen]: a humane thing because it was created in us by God. However, I find far too many people forsaking that love, that compassion, that is normally felt for others

2004-12-13 [Southern Affliction]: I feel people shouldnt have to believe in something to be humane.

2004-12-13 [Rizzen]: perhaps, but if there's nothing afterwards, what comes of it?

2004-12-14 [Southern Affliction]: what do you mean after it?

2004-12-15 [Rizzen]: after this life. Where does the kindness lead?

2004-12-15 [Southern Affliction]: It leads to people being civil and making each other's life easier.

2004-12-15 [Rizzen]: but when life ends?

2005-01-05 [Southern Affliction]: When it ends it ends. We die, we lie, and rot.

2005-01-05 [Rizzen]: but only in body

2005-01-06 [Southern Affliction]: Our body dies and as energy can not be destroyed... our energy returns to the earth. And thats where we stay.

2005-01-07 [Rizzen]: well, we shall see

2005-01-10 [Southern Affliction]: No we won't. It will end.

2005-01-11 [Rizzen]: and thus we will see. Either way, one of us will be proven correct

2005-01-11 [Southern Affliction]: When I am correct it won't be proven. We will never know.

2005-01-11 [Rizzen]: we may not know, but when we die, one of our "theories" will be correct. that's what I mean. And if I'm right, we'll know

2005-01-12 [Southern Affliction]: Agreed. We will see... or not.

2005-01-12 [Rizzen]: either way, nothing bad happens... to me

2005-01-12 [Southern Affliction]: And I get to live my life my way.

2005-01-12 [Rizzen]: If you turn out correct. But if I'm correct?

2005-01-12 [Southern Affliction]: Then I will be happy to spend eternity in hell than with a god that saves souls on beliefs rather than actions or morals.

2005-01-12 [Rizzen]: ah, but actions are required. Faith without aciton is water. as for morals, where do you think today's morals stem from?

2005-01-12 [Southern Affliction]: From the goodness of peoples hearts. Not from the strength of their beliefs. People shouldn't have to be kind and civilized because a religon says if they're not they'll suffer.

2005-01-12 [Rizzen]: that's not what religion says. it says if you don't believe in God you'll suffer. kind and civilized may be expected, but it's not a prerequisit.

2005-01-12 [Southern Affliction]: Well then I would rather suffer than be judged by something that just doesn't seem real. I'd rather suffer than stand next to someone who betrayed me. I would rather suffer than stand next to a god that judges how much you worship him than how you serve him.

2005-01-12 [Rizzen]: so what you'r saying is that you'd rather burn for eternity than serve a being of ultimate love, who will forgive you nomatter what you do, and all he askes is that you recognize him and love him in return?

2005-01-18 [Southern Affliction]: I'd rather suffer than stand next to a god that would judge me on how I worship him rather than live my life. But since there is no GOD then I don't have to worry about anything.

2005-01-19 [Rizzen]: well, we shall see

2005-02-23 [Southern Affliction]: Though it's dark I can see that there is no light guiding me. It is up to me to find my way and to kill those who are dumb, prejudice or gay. I am an atheist, I am who I am I have no faith and there is no plan. But how will she feel when she finds out... will she be angry? Will she shout? I can only hope that we have no differences but if we do I won't be scared. Because all I want is to run my fingers through her hair. It's just not fair.

2005-03-01 [Southern Affliction]: She knows... it's out... now I can just shout. She loves me for who I am and now it's our plan. It's up to us to live and our love to give.

2005-07-26 [kagome babe]: will you add mtngirl to your wiki?

2005-07-27 [Southern Affliction]: Sure

2005-09-07 [Hazel]: I'd like to join.. how do I join? Do you add my name to the list? Also, I don't understand your first rule. Isn't religious discrimination something that happens at school and in workplaces and stuff? And aren't you 'discriminating' because you're only allowing pure atheists in? I mean, that is the nature of a club/group. A golf lovers club discriminates against people who don't love golf, etc. I'm probably not following something, plz explain it.

2005-09-18 [Southern Affliction]: This site is for religous discussion. Thiis place is not for people to tell each other how "dumb" they are for their beliefs. So I invite civilized conversation not slander. Now are you a pure atheist?

2005-10-01 [Hazel]: ah, I see now :) Yes.. I think of myself as pure. But having read your threatening intro about shaming and stuff, I'm scared that my definition of pure might turn out to be different from yours. What I mean is I believe that there is no god or any other intelligent design. I am, however, interested in religion.. er, to quote DNA (which I do a lot you'll find..), "I am fascinated by religion. (That’s a completely different thing from believing in it!) It has had such an incalculably huge effect on human affairs. What is it? What does it represent? Why have we invented it? How does it keep going? What will become of it? I love to keep poking and prodding at it."

2006-02-23 [oXoX-Nikki Jo-XoXo]: uhhh can i join?

2006-02-26 [~*!Tiffy rox ur sox!*~]: I wanna join?!?!?

2007-08-25 [HellsAnger]: Hey [Southern Affliction] Would you mind adding me to your fancy little wiki here?

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